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Saturday, 16 July 2011

The Culbert/Cuthbert Family of Monegall

Robert Stewart and Rebecca Cuthbert were our paternal great-grandparents.

Robert Stewart, the son of Joseph and Elizabeth Stewart, married Rebecca Cuthbert in Dublin on 18th August 1898.
Rebecca was the daughter of Henry Thomas Cuthbert of Corraclevin, Offaly/King's County, and of Anne Allen of Galbally, Co. Limerick.

Henry Cuthbert, sometimes known as Henry THOMAS Culbert, was born on October 5th 1848 in Corraclevin, a townland just north of Monegall town in Co. Offaly/Kings County to Henry Culbert Senior, who had been born circa 1816, and to his wife, Rebecca.  Both father and son were carpenters - there seems to be a cluster of carpenters named Henry Culbert in the immediate area and all of them seem to be somehow related.  Although our Henry had been baptised 'Culbert' (or sometimes 'Colbert'), he later changed the family name to 'Cuthbert', possibly to make himself sound more Protestant - the ruling classes of the time were predominantly Church of Ireland and Henry may have considered the change to be somehow advantageous. I'm only guessing though.

I accessed the parish registers for Dunkerrin parish in the National Archives in Bishop Street, Dublin, and there were several entries for this Culbert family of Corraclevin, all beside each other.  Henry Thomas Culbert's birth was registered first and in this entry his mother's name is Rebecca.  Henry's sister, Maria Culbert, was born to Henry, a carpenter, and to a barely-legible Rebecca.  Maria was born in Corraclevin in 1840, but the baptism seems to have been entered into the register at a later date, possibly 1848.    On December 2nd 1842, Elizabeth was born to Henry, carpenter of Corraclevin, and his wife Rebecca.

The Culbert family were associated with a triangle of territory in Co. Offaly running between Shinrone, Dunkerrin and Monegall. (The same area now associated with the ancestors of Barack Obama.)  There was a strong tradition of emigration from this area and many of the Protestant Culberts ended up settling in London, Ontario, Canada, just north of Detroit, Michigan and the US border. The name Culbert is still very common in that area. This pre-famine emigration was organised in 1818 by Richard Talbot, a minor member of the Malahide Talbots.  The emigration continued throughout the 19th century and, by 1901, the area had been almost stripped bare of Protestant Culberts.

James and Mary Culbert of Corraclevin:
The father of Henry Culbert Senior was a farmer, James Culbert of Corraclevin.  The Dunkerrin parish register records the burial of a James Culbert of Corraclevin - he had been born in 1782, and died in Corraclevin, aged 70, on 4th June 1852.   His wife was possibly the Mary Culbert who was buried there, aged 82, on 24th July 1869;  she had been born in 1787,  and had been living in the Bohernagh townland at the time of her death in 1869.

In 1838 in Corraclevin, a James Culbert was leasing 2 acres of land and was noted in the Tithe Applotment Books.

William Colbert was born to James Colbert in Rockfort, Dunkerrin parish, on November 18th 1827 - the parish records state that James Colbert was a farmer.  There was no record of Henry Culbert Senior's birth in about 1816, nor of the birth of any more children.  Both of the known sons of James Culbert of Corraclevin were carpenters.
(Of interest:  A John Culbert was born in 1845 in Dunkerrin to a James Culbert and may well be yet another brother to William and Henry Culbert Senior; he may also have been a nephew. There may be no link between the two families, however, but I'll include the information here nonetheless -  this John Culbert emigrated to London, England,  at an early age and the 1871 census captures him living in the Hyde Park Barracks in Knightsbridge.  In 1876 he married Mary Anne Martin of Kent - his father was James Culbert, deceased, and hers was the late Samuel Martin. John Culbert was a signalman, and both bride and groom were resident at 5 Randolph Rd. The wedding took place at St.John the Evangelist Church in Wellesden. By 1881 they were living in the Hanover Square area where John Culbert worked as a dock policeman. They lived at the house of the solicitor John J. Ince where Mary Anne was the solicitor's housekeeper. They had three children - John aged 3, Ellen aged 1 and new-born Catherine.  By 1891, Mary Anne was widowed and was working as a laundress in Lambeth;  only John, aged 13, and Ellen, aged 11, were living with her. By 1901, Mary Anne was living in Lambeth with her daughter, Ellen, and Ellen's bricklayer husband, Charles J. Skillett.   The admission records for the Galley Wall Road School show up the son of John and Mary Anne Culbert, the younger John Culbert - he was admitted there, aged 5, on 23rd April 1883;  his date of birth was given as 30th June 1877, and he had previously spent 9 months at East Street School in Walmorth.   By 1911, this younger John Culbert shows up on the census as an army musician in Chichester, who had attained the rank of Lance Corporal.)

Also noted in the Dunkerrin Parish Register was the 44-yr-old Anne Colbert of Dunkerrin who was buried there on 7th July 1870.
A Robert Colbert of Corraclevin died aged 29 and was buried on 6th August 1848.

Also of interest was the marriage of Richard Culbert of Dunkerrin to Anne Hodgins on 3rd May 1836.   On 25th November 1864, William Culbert, the son of a Richard Culbert, married Bridget Nolan the daughter of Edward Nolan.
Later, a Thomas Culbert, also the son of a Richard Culbert, married Anne Taylor, the daughter of James Taylor, in Templeharry Parish Church on 30th December 1862.  Templeharry is a mere 7 kilometres away from Corraclevin, so this Thomas may well be somehow related to our Culberts, although this is as yet unclear.  This Thomas Culbert emigrated to Petersville Village, Middlesex East, London, Ontario, Canada, where the 1881 census recorded his year of birth in Ireland as 1841. However, the later 1901 census would give his date of birth as 15th July 1830.  The 1881 census recorded him as Protestant and working in Middlesex as a teamster.  His wife, Annie, had been born in Ireland in 1843. They must have emigrated to Ontario shortly after their 1862 marriage, since their children were all Canadian-born - William Culbert in 1864, Lizzie Culbert in 1866, Sarah in 1868, Margaret in 1870, Richard in 1877, Thomas in 1879, and Susan May Culbert on 17th August 1885.  Susan May Culbert died of lung disease on 14th November 1885 a few months after her birth in West London, Ontario.   Annie, née Taylor, died at some stage, and Thomas remarried, this time to the Irish-born Helen or Ellen Miller.   In 1901, Thomas and Helen Culbert - she had been born on 12th July 1856 - were living with their son Richard Culbert, a jeweller who had married the Scottish Christina Brown, on 2nd December 1901.  Thomas and Helen Culbert had two young children, Freddie ClarenceCulbert, later known as Freddie James Culbert, born 16st January 1893, and Margaret Culbert born 3rd August 1895.  An earlier daughter was Martha Culbert born on 10th August 1893 who married Wesley John Allen, the son of the English William Allen and Henrietta Stevenson, on 13th June 1925 in West London, Ontario.   Frederick James Culbert married Laura Vivian Strong, the daughter of George Strong and Julia Dumas, on 10th June 1911 in Windsor, Ontario.

(I also accessed the Templeharry church registers, or what survives of them, while in the National Archives, and came across a few more Culbert/Colbert references. Again, these people may not be related in any way to my own Culbert/Cuthbert family, but, since they hail from a common area, I'll add them here as people of interest and to maybe help their descendants trace them easily. A Thomas Colbert was baptised in 1804 or 1805 by parents Edward and Deborah Colbert of Ballinakill.  Later, Elizabeth Colbert, daughter of William and Catherine Colbert was baptised on 17th March 1830;  their daughter Sarah was baptised on 3rd July 1831.  Catherine, daughter of William and Catherine Colbert, was baptised on 16th January 1832.   William, son of John and Mary Culbert, was baptisesd in August 1832, exact date being illegible. Maria, daughter of William Colbert, was baptised in Templharry, on 11th February 1832.  What I took to be Joseph Colbert was baptised by his parents, John and Mary, on 20th May 1834.
I also went through the Birr/Killaloe register and came across the baptism of a Margaret Taylor on 27th February 1846, her parents being the gardener James Taylor and Eliza Colbert, both of the town of Birr. I hope these records will be of some use to someone out there!)

A recent DNA test with Ancestry has revealed me to be related to two fellow researchers, both of whom descend from a Richard Culbert and Ann Jane Harlton, an Irish-born Methodist couple, who settled in Ontario.  
In 1851, according to the Canadian census, Richard and Ann Jane Culbert were farming in Huron, Ontario, just north of London. Richard had been born in Ireland in about 1813.  Also present were their children.  John Culbert had been born in Ireland in about 1840 immediately prior to emigration. The rest of their children were Canadian-born - Elizabeth in about 1841, Helen in about 1843, Sally Ann in 1845 and Catherine in 1850.
Immediately next door was the Offaly-born John Culbert who had been born in about 1802, and his wife Mary Ward.   Their children were Henry, who had been born in Ireland in about 1836, William born in Canada in 1841, Rebecca in 1843, Thomas in 1845 and Joseph in about 1848.    John Culbert died on 15th October 1887 in Biddulph, Ontario, and his death certificate confirmed his Offaly birth.





William Culbert, son of James and Mary Culbert, and brother of Henry Culbert Senior:
Our ancestors, the family of the carpenter, Henry Culbert Senior and of Rebecca, lived at Corraclevin, Bohernagh, and Clyduff.  Henry's brother, the carpenter William Culbert, lived at both Clyduff and at Barna in Corraclevin.   William married Eliza Hodgins in Modreeny, Co. Tipperary, which is just north of Corraclevin, on February 9th 1858 - William's father was James Culbert or Colbert and Eliza was the daughter of Richard Hodgins. The Hodgins are plentiful in this area.  The couple had numerous children whose births I sourced in the National Archives in Dublin.

1) Maria Culbert, born to William Culbert, a carpenter of Clyduff,  and Eliza Hodgins, on 10th December 1858.

2) James Culbert, baptised on February 24th 1859. A James Culbert, aged 3 from Corraclevin, was buried in Dunkerrin parish on November 7th 1863.

3) A second James Culbert was baptised on November 10th 1863: by now the couple have moved to Corraclevin, about ten kilometers away. This James was buried, aged 3 days, in Corraclevin on 11th November.

4) Sarah Culbert was born in Corraclevin on 8th November 1864 and baptised there on November 16th 1864.  When this daughter's birth was registered by her parents on 28th November 1864, her name was written as Eliza Culbert, but her father, William Culbert, petitioned  Shinrone Petty Sessions to have the baby's name changed to Sarah on 24th May 1867.  This information was written in the margin of her civil birth registration.

5) Elizabeth Culbert was baptised in Corraclevin on July 22nd 1865 - her civil birth registration has her date of birth as 20th August 1866, so perhaps the first Elizabeth died and was quickly followed by the second.

6) Martha Culbert born in Boherna, Corraclevin on October 22nd 1865.

7) Henry Culbert, cousin to our great-great grandfather Henry Culbert Junior, was born 22nd April 1872 and  baptised on May 28th 1872.  He later worked as a carpenter, then as a timber merchant in the area.  He was involved with an evangelical Protestant organisation in the area.  In 1893 he proved the will of his paternal uncle, Henry Culbert Senior.   Later he did the same for his own brother-in-law, the carpenter William Henry Bray who died on 29th December 1914 at Derrinvohill, Borrisokane, Co. Tipperary.
On 4th November 1912 in the Roscrea Registrar's office, Henry Culbert, coachbuilder of Boherna, Dunkerrin, son of joiner William Culbert, married Mary Kate Bray, shop assistant of Ballyspillane, Borrisokane, daughter of the farmer William Bray. The wtnesses were Rose Bray and John Pattison.

Henry and Mary Kate Culbert had a son, William Henry Culbert, at Abbey House, Nenagh, on 2nd september 1915.

Henry Culbert, aged 68, sawmill proprietor, died on 17th November 1941 at Abbey House, Nenagh; the informant was his daughter Lillie Culbert of Abbey House.

8) Ellen Theresa Culbert was born 6th may 1871, and died the same year.  The informant on her civil birth registration was named as Margaret Clarke of Stony Acre.

9) Hannah Culbert was born in Corraclevin on July 1st 1876; the informant was Margaret Hodgins, 'occupier', Corraclevin.
 On 26th August 1901 in Dunkerrin Church, Hannah Culbert married the carpenter William Henry Bray, the son of William Bray and Jane Turner. The witnesses were William Long and Sarah Clarke.
 They settled at Derrinvohill, Borrisokane, Co. Tipperary.  The 1911 census showed three children - James Bray born 1902, Florence Bray born 1903, and Mary Jane Bray born 1906.

10) Richard William Culbert was born on 24th May 1878 in Corraclevin, but died the same year.

11) Frances Jane Colbert was born on August 6th 1874 in Boherna; the informant was named on her civil birth certificate as Margaret Hodgins, 'occupier' of Boherna.

William Culbert, carpenter of Boherna, died on 10th July 1898.  His widow,  86 year old Eliza Culbert, née Hodgins, died at Abbey House, Nenagh, the home of her son, Henry Culbert.

William Culbert's brother, our immediate paternal ancestor the carpenter Henry Culbert Senior, was quite nomadic and travelled around Offaly and Tipperary, probably for work purposes.

Early Records:
I accessed the Tithe Applotment Books for this area in the National Library in Dublin - most of the Culberts in the 1830s were living across the Tipperary/Offaly border in the parish of Modreeny near Cloughjordan, which seems to suggest that they originated there, before spreading out.

In 1838 in Corraclevin, King's County, our James Culbert was leasing 2 acres of land.
Most of the Culberts show up in the Tithe Books in Modreeny parish, Tipperary, leasing land from Lord Dunalley.
In Burntwood, Modreeny, which only several kilometers away from Corraclevin,  Thomas Culbert was leasing 5 acres; William Culbert was leasing 10 acres; John Culbert was leasing one acre.  There was a cluster of Hodgins here too and, since our William Culbert married Eliza Hodgins in Modreeny, I noted the Hodgins clan as well - Richard Hodgins was leasing 17 acres; James Hodgins was leasing 11 acres; Ellen Hodgins was leasing 10 acres; Thomas Hodgins was leasing one acre; John Hodgins was leasing one acre and Henry Hodgins was leasing 2 acres.
In Stoney Acre, Modreeny, Richard Hodgins was leasing 10 acres; Henry Hodgins was leasing 10 acres; Thomas Colbert/Culbert was leasing 5 acres and W. and James Hodgins were leasing 51 acres in partnership.
The Culbert family of Burntwood, Tipperary, are almost certainly related to our neighbouring Culberts of Corraclevin, Offaly, both being Protestant, and both having intermarried with the Hodgins family.  Members of both families emigrated in the mid to late 19th century to London, Ontario.
In Loughane, Modreeny, William Colbert was leasing 13 acres.

Griffiths Valuation was carried out in Offaly  in 1851 and two Culbert entries are noted, both in the Cullenwaine area of Monegall - William Culbert was leasing a house and three acres; John Culbert was leasing a house and garden in Monegall town.  In 1851 there was no mention of Culberts living at Corraclevin or Clyduff.
Because the border with Co. Tipperary runs very close to Monegall,  I also checked the entries for Tipperary and this showed up another William Culbert who was leasing a house and yard in the nearby town of Cloughjordan.  There was also Thomas Culbert leasing a house and outbuildings just south of Ballingarry.

I came across another record of interest on the internet: the 26th Annual Report of the Co. Tipperary Protestant Orphan Society for 1861.  A Maria Culbert was admitted to the orphanage on June 9th 1852, taken from Ballingarry. The report states that her deceased father was a carpenter and that she was later taken by friends. Was her father Thomas Culbert of Ballingarry who had been noted on Griffiths Valuation of 1851?  And was this Thomas Culbert a relation of Henry THOMAS Culbert?
Also, a Sarah Culbert who was put into the Abbey Training School and whose date of birth was June 2nd 1846, was admitted on June 9th 1852.  Her deceased parent was also a carpenter and she had been taken from Clonmel.
Eliza Culbert, born June 18th 1849, was admitted on September 8th 1852,  and her late father had been a carpenter of Ballingarry.
Of course, given the paucity of surviving records, I'm really only clutching at straws here, so there may be no relationship between my own Culberts and the above family.

Henry Thomas Culbert and Anne Allen:
Our paternal great-great grandfather, Henry Thomas Culbert, married our great-great grandmother, Anne Allen, the daughter of Robert Allen and Sarah McClure,  in Galbally Church of Ireland Church in Co. Limerick on October 3rd 1869.
At this time the Culbert family had moved south from Offaly and were living close to the Limerick/Tipperary boarder in the townland of Kilshane, an area on the Tipperary/Limerick border which was associated with the Allen family. Henry's father was Henry Culbert Senior, carpenter, as mentioned above, and one of the witnesses to the marriage was a fellow carpenter, William Airey, who can be seen later on the 1901 Census still resident in Kilshane. The second witness was Richard Allen, possibly Anne's brother.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/07/anne-cuthbert-nee-allen-of-galbally.html

On May 21st 1861, eight years before Henry married Anne Allen in Galbally, his sister Maria Culbert, who had been born in 1840 in Corraclevin, married John Thomas Gale in Donohill, Tipperary, close to the town of Cashel. He was a schoolmaster, the son of William Gale, another teacher.  Present at the wedding were Henry Culbert and William Culbert as witnesses.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/09/maria-culbert-and-john-thomas-gale.html

Two years later on Jan 19th 1871, Henry and Anne Culbert had their first son, Robert Gale Culbert, born to the couple in Milltown, Offaly, a country area just south of Shinrone and immediately next to the townland of Clyduff where Henry's brother, William, had earlier lived.

Henry Culbert's mother, Rebecca Culbert  (1809 - 1891), died aged 82, a carpenter's wife, at Clyduff on 2nd June 1891.  Her husband, who was illiterate, Henry Culbert Senior, was the informant and signed his mark on the civil death registration.

Henry's father, Henry Culbert Senior, later died, on 29th November 1893, in this same rural area, Clyduff next to Milltown - his death certificate lists him as a 77-yr-old carpenter, therefore his year of birth was 1816.  Present at his death was his nephew, Henry Culbert who lived at Bohernagh just outside Monegall nearby. This fellow was also a carpenter. This Henry Culbert was the cousin of our Henry Thomas Culbert who had moved to Dublin, their fathers being the brothers, William and Henry Culbert Senior.

The Children of our paternal great-great grandparents, Henry Thomas Culbert and Anne Allen:
1) Robert Gale Culbert was born in Milltown, Offaly, on Jan.19th 1871.

2) Henry and Anne Culbert moved back to Anne's hometown of Galbally for the birth on April 26th 1873 of their daughter Rebecca, our great-grandmother, who later married Robert Stewart in Dublin.
By 1873, as confirmed by Rebecca's birth cert., the Culbert family were now living at 4 St. Lawrence Road where the remainder of their children were born. Rebecca's maternal grandmother, Sarah Allen, née McClure, was present in Galbally, at her birth.

3) William Henry Culbert was born here on May 30th 1875.

4) Richard Culbert on May 20th 1877. Richard was a twin but, sadly, his sister Sarah Anne Culbert did not survive.

5) Henry Culbert was born on June 6th 1879 but this child died as well.

6) On 12th November 1881 at 4 St. Lawrence Road, Anne gave birth to Edward Thomas but this time, oddly, they baptised their son as Edward Thomas CUTHBERT instead of Culbert.

7) Finally Emily Amelia Cuthbert (later known as Amelia) - possibly named for one of Anne Cuthbert's close relations in Galbally - was born on the 18th March 1883 at 23 Lower Oriel Street close to Connolly Station in the city centre. She was baptised in St. Barnabas Church on May 25th, the same church in the North Strand area where all of her Dublin-born siblings had been christened earlier and where her father was one of the church wardens.

The family moved to 69 Seville Place at some stage, and, on 13th January 1898, this was where Anne Allen's mother, Sarah Allen, née McClure, widow of Robert Allen of Galbally, died of bronchitis.

Our great-grandmother, Rebecca Cuthbert, daughter of Henry Cuthbert and Anne Allen, married our great-grandfather, Robert Stewart,  in 1896.

There are further records for Henry and Anne's son, William Henry Cuthbert who was a carpenter like his father. He married Elizabeth McManus Grattan of 19 Parliament Street in St. Werberghs on 22nd February 1898. Elizabeth's father was a tailor named William Grattan.  Elizabeth McManus Grattan made costumes for the Abbey Theatre - years later their daughter, Doreen Cuthbert, was a dancer with the shortlived Abbey School of Ballet which had been founded by Ninette de Valois and W.B. Yeats in 1928.
This family later appeared on the 1939/1940 electoral lists for Dublin, living at 103 Howth Road.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/06/william-henry-cuthbert-and-elizabeth.html

Two of Rebecca's brothers married in Dublin - Robert Gale Cuthbert, a commercial clerk, married Elizabeth Johnston of 26 Connaught Street on 25th July 1901;  they married in All Saints Church, Grangegorman and the witnesses were Elizabeth's brother, Alexander Parker Johnston and Robert Cuthbert's brother Richard.  Elizabeth's parents were the late James Johnston and the widowed Jane Johnston, née Parker.   The 1901 census showed the Johnston family at 26 Connaught Street in Cabra - Elizabeth's mother, who had been born in Co. Louth in about 1837, kept boarders there.  Elizabeth herself had been born in Ballybay, Co. Monaghan on 28th October 1865, whilst her brother, Alexander, had been born in the same place on 9th March 1864.  (A son, John James Johnston was born to a James Johnston and Ellen Parker in Belfast on 21st May 1870, and a daughter, Alice, had been born in Tipperary in about 1874.)
Elizabeth Cuthbert, née Johnston, died in North Dublin in 1906.  In 1911, the widowed Robert Cuthbert was living back home with his widowed mother, Anne Allen Cuthbert at 194 Rathgar Road, South Dublin.

He married again on 30th July 1912.  Wife Number Two was the shop assistant Mary Jane Spence, and the wedding took place in Waringstown, Donaghcloney, Co. Down, close to her family farm at Castledoe, Corcreany, Co. Down.   Mary Jane, born circa 1874, was the daughter of the farmer, George Spence, and of Ellen Watson.  Her brother, William James Spence, had been born on 1st May 1879, and was probably named after his grandfather, since Griffiths Valuation of 1864 shows up an earlier William John Spence farming 64 acres in the same townland of Corcreany.  Mary Jane Spence had other siblings - Alfred  born 1884, Josiah born 1889, Edith S. born 1891 and Susan born 1893.
Mary Jane Spence was absent from the family home in 1901, and may be the Mary Spence who was working, aged 15, as a drapers assistant in Wexford Street, Dublin.  This same Mary was still there in 1911 along with a possible relation, Rhoda Spence, who had likewise been born in Co. Down.

Robert Cuthbert moved north and was living in Castledoe, Corcreany, Waringstown, County Down in 1920, although when he died on 24th June 1932, he was living back in Dublin at 14 Garville Road, Rathgar, which is immediately around the corner from Rathgar Road where his family had been living in 1911. Robert's brother, Richard Cuthbert, was living at 14 Garville Road in 1912 when he married Ellen Frances Moore, so perhaps this was to become the family home.  When he died at 14 Garville Road in 1932, Robert Gale Cuthbert was noted as a clerk, and died of disseminated sclerosis at the Incurable Hospital in Donnybrook . According to the death cert., his wife was still alive at this point.

Richard Cuthbert married Ellen Frances Moore in The Church of the Holy Trinity, Rathmines on 27th June 1912.  Ellen Frances was named as the daughter of the Dublin carpenter/foreman, Henry Johnston Moore, who had been born in Dublin City in 1841 to William Moore, and who had married Sarah Hannah Bramhill, daughter of Robert Bramhill, in Doncaster, UK, on 8th March 1866. The couple had three children in England before moving back to Dublin where Ellen was born in 1880.  She was baptised as Helen Frances Moore in February 1880 or 1881 at 27 Holys Avenue, North Stand, Dublin, but was later known as Ellen Frances. Her brother underwent the same name change - he had been christened as Arthur Edward in 1879, but, by the time of his marriage to Caroline Nevin of Blackrock, Co. Dublin, in 1900, he was known as Albert Edward instead.
The children of the carpenter Henry Johnston Moore and of Sarah Hannah Bramhill were Henry Moore, Thomas, Albert Ernest, Ellen Frances, Joseph, Charles, and Sarah.
At the time of Ellen Frances Moore's wedding to Richard Cuthbert in 1912, the Moore family were living at 15 Richmond Hill, Dublin. They had earlier been resident at 10 Sackville Street. The witnesses were the bride's father, Henry J. Moore, and her sister Sarah Moore.  Richard named his father as Henry T. Cuthbert, and gave his father's profession as a foreman, this despite the fact that Henry had died in 1903.

A daughter, Muriel Cuthbert, was born at 6 Hollybank Road on 28th September 1914.

On the Electoral Lists of 1939/1940,  Richard Cuthbert, Ellen Frances Cuthbert and their daughter, Muriel,  show up at 6 Hollybank Rd, Drumcondra.

Richard Cuthbert died on March 8th 1947 at 6 Hollybank Road. A retired foreman carpenter, his son was present at his death - the certificate names the son as what seems to be B.M. Cuthbert of 35 West Side, Clapham Common, London.

Edward Cuthbert, the youngest of Rebecca's brothers, married a Belfast woman, Sarah Jane Hill, and commuted between Ireland and New Jersey, possibly for work purposes.  He arrived in New York on April 27th 1920 having sailed from Glasgow. The ship's manifest provides information: he was aged 37, a cabinet-maker, who was heading for Kearney, New Jersey. His last address in Ireland had been with his brother, Robert Cuthbert, at Castledoe, Waringstown, Down.
He was recorded as a passenger arriving once again at NYC on August 17th 1925, this time aboard the 'Cedric' which had sailed from Liverpool.  Once again his destination was Kearney, New Jersey, and he was still working as a carpenter.  The manifest confirms the fact that he had been born in Dublin.  His closest relative at home was given as his sister-in-law, Miss M. Hill, of 1 Woodvale Road, Shankill, Belfast.
This was Margaret Hill, the daughter of the widowed Ellen Hill whose husband had died some time before the 1901 census.  There were two other daughters recorded on the census -  Sarah Jane Hill, born Belfast circa 1877, and her sister, Anna Bella, born Armagh circa 1873.   Neither Anna Bella nor her sister, Margaret Hill, ever married;  Anna Bella died 6th March 1932, and administration of her will was granted to her sister Margaret; the calendar of wills states that both women were spinsters.

Sarah Jane was the wife of Edward Thomas Cuthbert, although I can find no reference anywhere to the marriage - perhaps they were living abroad when they married, possibly in the States. One of the passenger lists I consulted records that Edward had been naturalised in Hudson County, New Jersey, on January 12th 1927.
The street directories record him living in 1926 at 425 Kearny Avenue, New Jersey;  in 1927 and 1928, he was at 72, Forrest A., Harrison, New Jersey.

Margaret Hill of 1 Woodvale Rd., died on 18th August 1943 at Central Avenue, Bangor (possibly a nursing home?), and the administration of her will was granted to her sister Sarah Jane Cuthbert.

 Edward was recorded as a returning passenger, both times travelling from New York to Liverpool aboard the 'Cedric', once in 1925, and again in 1929.  On both occasions he gave his permanent address as the Hill's home, 1 Woodvale Road, Belfast.   The Belfast phone book records him there as E.T.Cuthbert from 1971 till 1976, which suggests that he spent his entire married life at the same address.

His wife was the daughter of Ellen McComb and James Hill who had married in Shankill, Belfast, on 28th August 1868. Ellen's father was David McComb; James Hill's father was another James Hill. Their children were born as follows - Margaret Hill, born in Armagh on 12th August 1870;  Anna Bella Hill, born in Mullaglass, Armagh, on 12th April 1872; Sarah Jane Hill, born in Belfast on 21st February 1877;  George Hill, born in Belfast on 15th May 1879.

The passenger list for the 'Franconia' in 1930, once again records Edward Thomas Cuthbert heading across the Atlantic, and this time he gave a destination address, which was the home of a friend, Samuel E. Hume of 32 Dodd St, in Montclair, New Jersey.  Given that Samuel E. Hume, an electrical construction engineer, had earlier been living in Kearney, New Jersey, which Edward had previously given as his destination in the US, it's safe to assume that he had been heading to the home of Samuel Hume all along.
Samuel Elliott Hume had been born in Belfast in 1889 and had emigrated to the US aboard the doomed 'Lusitania' in 1907 - this was possibly the ship's maiden transatlantic voyage.  The passenger lists recorded his old address in Belfast as 8 Old Avenue, Sydenham, Belfast, and his contact there as 'M. Hume'.   In 1915, Samuel Elliott Hume applied for, and got, a US passport in order to return to England, Ireland and Scotland to try and recover the body of his wife, Mary Agnes Hume.  Samuel Elliott Hume had married Mary Agnes Elliott, who was Irish like himself, on December 23rd 1910.  Samuel was naturalized as an American citizen on April 23rd 1915.  Before the marriage, Mary Agnes had worked as a dressmaker. She died aboard the 'Lusitania' which left New York on 1st May 1915, heading for Cork;  on 7th May, as the liner was approaching Cork Harbour, she was torpedoed by a German U-boat and sank in 18 minutes.  Of the 1,959 passengers aboard, 1,198 died, and the atrocity helped to provoke the United States into the war two years later.
Under the Treaty of Berlin of August 25th 1921, the German government was obligated to pay to the government of the United States, on behalf of Samuel Elliott Hume, the sum of eight thousand dollars, including interest, and also to Samuel Elliott Hume, in his role as administrator of the will of the late Mary Agnes Hume, 1,341 dollars with interest, as compensation following the tragedy of the Lusitania.

The wife of Edward Thomas Cuthbert died aged 82 at 1 Woodvale Road on 17th February 1960, while Edward Thomas Cuthbert died at the same address, aged 84, on 29th September.  Both are buried in Belfast City Cemetery.

Edward's younger sister, Emily Amelia Cuthbert, known simply as Amelia, married Joseph Charles Erskine in St. Thomas's on 4th September 1912 in Dublin.  At the time of the weddings, Amelia was at 14 Garville Road, Rathgar, while Joseph, a law clerk, was living in Lower Gardiner Street.
He was the son of Ulster-born, John Erskine, who was buried in St. George's, Dublin, on 9th July 1898, and  of Cordelia Ann Aylward, who had been born on 30th November 1854 at 9 Upper Stephen Street, Dublin to the house painter John Aylward and his wife Eliza.
Joseph Charles Erskine had been born on 22nd October 1883 in Belfast.  In 1911, he was living at home with his widowed mother and his brothers and sisters at 68 Lower Gardiner Street, Dublin, and was working as a solicitor's clerk.  His siblings were:
Mary Elizabeth Erskine, born circa 1877 in Dublin.
Corelia Erskine, born circa 1879 in Dublin.
William John Erskine, born circa 1880 in Dublin.
Bertha Agnes Erskine, born circa 1889 in Belfast.
Florence Aylward Erskine, born circa 1892 in Belfast.

Following Joseph Charles Erskine's marriage to Amelia Cuthbert in 1912, the couple had two children, John Henry Erskine, who was born and died in 1914, and Eric Cuthbert Erskine (22nd June 1913 - 2003.)

From Mount Jerome Cemetery:   'In Affectionate Remembrance of Joseph Charles Erskine, dearly loved husband of Amelia Erskine, died 16 March 1941.  Also John Henry Erskine, younger son of the above, died 27th July 1914, interred elsewhere in this cemetery.  Also Carol St. Clair darling only child of Eric and Clair Erskine, died 21 July 1943 aged 10 months.'

From The Irish Times:  'Erskine - March 16th 1941 at Corduke House, solicitor of 2 St. Stephen's Green, husband of Amelia Erskine and second and only surviving son of the late John and Cordelia Erskine.'

Corduke House was at 47 Sandymount Road, Co. Dublin. The funeral took place at St. Matthew's, Irishtown; the burial at Mount Jerome Cemetery. Amongst the mourners were his son, Eric C. Erskine, sisters Mrs. G. Dukes and Mrs. J. Howrie, nieces Miss A. Dukes, Miss D. Howrie, Mrs. Beamish and Miss I. Keely,  and nephews William G. Dukes, F.E.Dukes, D. Howrie and Charles H. Reid.
Amelia Erkine, née Emily Amelia Cuthbert, died in Dublin on 9th October 1966.

The deaths of her parents, our paternal great-great grandparents, were registered as follows:
Henry Thomas Cuthbert, carpenter of 69 Seville Place, Dublin, died aged 54 of severe bronchitis and emphysema on 18th April 1903.  His son Richard Cuthbert was present at his death.
Henry's wife, Anne Allen Cuthbert, died at 194 Rathgar Road,  Dublin, on 5th June 1911, aged 63 years.  She had died of Bright's disease.  Son Robert Gale Cuthbert, also of 194 Rathgar Road, was the informant.

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